Feb 20, 2008, 01:43 AM // 01:43
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#21
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Ooo, pretty flower
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Citadel of the Decayed
Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
LoL, maybe you can lock Razah with Joko in an endless battle for all eternity since neither can die.
*cough* Tal Rasha *cough*
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haha d2 reference ftw.
Anyways, I do think it is a great idea to put Razah into GW2. For me, the only cool NPCs in NF were Palawa Joko and Razah. I think a good way to bring him in *although somewhat unfair to those without NF and/or EN* is to set up a quest in the HoM only availible to those who put up his statue in GW1. Or, if he must not be a hero, it can be set up as he battles Joko as Onarik said, he was probably joking, but that would be neat .
As for those who say his past is never explained. It is. It's just very very very short. Let me sum it up: "Razah was born in mists to lean. He was kept 'imprisoned' by Abaddon. We set him free."
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O wait, thats his actual past .
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Feb 20, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54
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#22
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: America. How about you, commie?
Guild: Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]
Profession: R/Mo
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Theory 1
"We don't know who he is, only that he has horrible taste in fashion and he breaks into the families' houses at night and steals from the cookie jar. YOU MUST STOP THIS FIEND!"
*Locate the monster.
*Destroy the monster.
*Report to the Game Show Hub and try to guess what character from GW1 the monster is, for a chance to win a random dye!
Reward:
500 Gold
2500 Experience
5 Cookies
Theory 2
Razah was created to learn, right? And since he's immortal, he'll be learning for some time. He learns and learns and learns and goes insane through some crappy plot twist, you need to destroy him. Yeah it's basically Theory 1 but with more explanation.
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Feb 20, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32
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#23
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: [CRFH]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
haha d2 reference ftw.
Anyways, I do think it is a great idea to put Razah into GW2. For me, the only cool NPCs in NF were Palawa Joko and Razah. I think a good way to bring him in *although somewhat unfair to those without NF and/or EN* is to set up a quest in the HoM only availible to those who put up his statue in GW1. Or, if he must not be a hero, it can be set up as he battles Joko as Onarik said, he was probably joking, but that would be neat .
As for those who say his past is never explained. It is. It's just very very very short. Let me sum it up: "Razah was born in mists to lean. He was kept 'imprisoned' by Abaddon. We set him free."
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O wait, thats his actual past .
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My impression was that he was created to be a servant of Abaddon - possibly just to be another Torment demon, or maybe he was a special creation to replace the generals we'd just obliterated - except that we intervened before his mind could be shaped in the correct fashion. That was his original intended purpose in life, but it was never given to him so it was up to us to give him another, hopefully nobler, purpose.
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Feb 20, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32
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#24
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Academy Page
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Oscen Ex Merito [wAw]
Profession: W/R
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I can see Razah in GW2 as one of the last sunspears in elona fighting Joko then after that Razah can return to the mist or help the tree people find their purpose in the world like he has.
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Feb 20, 2008, 03:35 PM // 15:35
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#25
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Forge Runner
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Hm... only the hero I do not really like has the potential to live long enough or be immortal to be around in GW2...
NOOOOO! :>
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Feb 20, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40
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#26
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Niflheim
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
Hm... only the hero I do not really like has the potential to live long enough or be immortal to be around in GW2...
NOOOOO! :>
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What about Zhed/Vekk? We don't know how long Asuras or centaurs live. Pyre will be probably dead, Charrs live as long as humans...
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Feb 23, 2008, 12:19 PM // 12:19
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#27
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Academy Page
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Malta
Guild: Honorable Underground Guards [HUG]
Profession: E/
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Well he can always be the guardian of the HoM
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Feb 23, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04
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#28
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: MIST
Profession: N/
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He will take up a job in tavern serving tea and ale.
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Feb 23, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46
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#29
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: America. How about you, commie?
Guild: Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]
Profession: R/Mo
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Zhed might be around.
Ventari is an old bag in Prophecies (and GW:EN). Let's use the earlier year and say he's around 80 (human years) in 1072 AE. Ventari dies in 1165 AE.
1165-1072=93. He will die around the age of 173.
Zhed is, what, 19? 17? One of those if I recall. So yeah, he could live roughly another 160 years.
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Feb 24, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29
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#30
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2007
Profession: Me/
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From the official website and the manual:
Rebellious Centaur
"Tell me again why I should help you. Where were you, two-legs, when my family was slain by the Kournan jackals?"
Origin: Centaur
Age: 17
So yeah, if centaurs can live that old.. but still fairly unlikely to Zhed live over 260 years old.
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Feb 24, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48
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#31
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: My PC
Guild: Eagles Talon [ET] NOW RECRUITING
Profession: W/R
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I can see it now, Razah and Zhed form a crime fighting duo against the evils of Palawa Joko.
But on a seriouser note, Razah is a demon from the Mists, the Torment Demons can't really die since they can just go back through a portal or by a Call to the Torment skill. Not sure if that's true for Razah but he seems to be made the same way as the demons.
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Feb 27, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10
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#32
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: MIST
Profession: N/
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If he is immortal then he could be used to clog Primordious' wind pipe for eternity.
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Feb 28, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44
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#33
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2007
Profession: N/
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Dang, I wish Razah had Call of Torment, it'll be better than having an MM!
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Feb 28, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28
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#34
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)
Guild: Xen of Onslaught
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
What about Zhed/Vekk? We don't know how long Asuras or centaurs live. Pyre will be probably dead, Charrs live as long as humans...
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From memory Vekk was described as "young" and is already well on his way to a three-digit age. I would say he'll probably still be about (barring accidents or something anyway).
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Feb 29, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57
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#35
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: The Devil Fish
Profession: N/E
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Razah?
Well, This might give you all some insight to Razah in Gw2 (this picture i found i dont know if its 100%)
It said "Chronomaster" maybe a new class in gw2?
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Feb 29, 2008, 08:09 PM // 20:09
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#36
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Bellgium
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Action Jacson
Well, This might give you all some insight to Razah in Gw2 (this picture i found i dont know if its 100%)
It said "Chronomaster" maybe a new class in gw2?
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That was the chronomancer class intended for Gw:Utopia,but it got scrapped.
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Feb 29, 2008, 08:19 PM // 20:19
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#37
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: The Devil Fish
Profession: N/E
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snarf snarf liono
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Mar 01, 2008, 11:31 PM // 23:31
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#38
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: The Grim Squeakers [REAP]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldin
Theory 2
Razah was created to learn, right? And since he's immortal, he'll be learning for some time. He learns and learns and learns and goes insane through some crappy plot twist, you need to destroy him. Yeah it's basically Theory 1 but with more explanation.
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Please don't make Razah into a 343 Guilty Spark. Razah wasn't annoying enough in GW1 to warrent destroying him in GW2.
Would be cool to see him return though, he does seem like the immortal type, they never did exactly say how old Razah is to begin with.
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Mar 02, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31
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#39
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Ooo, pretty flower
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Citadel of the Decayed
Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]
Profession: N/
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As I read through this thread again, I started thinking, how did the "immortal" idea for Razah come about? He *obviously through putting him in a party* can die, unlike Joko, we just assume he cannot be killed *definition with immortal* but we, somewhat, know he cannot age *eternal youth concept, not same as immortality*.
Although it would be grand if Razah can use the Call of Torment skill in GW2, if he is in GW2, which as iI said would be great. It would most defenitly suck if we have to kill him like some are saying. And it would be grand if he really cannot die, but as I said, we just *somewhat* know he doesn't seem to age.
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Mar 04, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07
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#40
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: MIST
Profession: N/
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Maybe he will be in charge of one of these great knowledge banks the whispers have stashed away. some sort of grand library master.
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